Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-represented regions into the IETF

Steve Conte <conte@isoc.org> Thu, 10 October 2013 16:30 UTC

From: Steve Conte <conte@isoc.org>
To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, Arturo Servin <arturo.servin@gmail.com>
Thread-Topic: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-represented regions into the IETF
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SM,

As the others have stated, thanks for taking the time to look at the ISOC
Fellowship to the IETF programme.  As a 5+ times awardee of the
fellowship, you have the ability to see the value of the programme
directly.

I'm struggling with the title that has been suggested: "Improving the ISOC
Fellowship programme to attract people from under-represented regions into
the IETF".

This draft is more about suggesting ways in which ISOC should change the
programme to be more restrictive rather than finding ways to attract more
applicants.  The suggestions in the draft reflect changes in selection
criteria of applicants and the make-up of the selection committee.  These
suggestions speak to increasing the quality of the applicant (which ISOC
is already doing) and not about attracting more people.

As I mentioned in a previous mail, the fellowship programme is only one
piece of the overall ISOC strategy to increase awareness and participation
in the IETF.  By looking only at the granularity of the fellowship
programme, it is missing the other methods in which ISOC works towards
attracting people to participate in the IETF.

Finally, what will be the end result of this draft?  Will the IETF submit
this to ISOC as recommendations for consideration?  There are certainly
some ideas within the draft that would be considered, but in the end, this
is an ISOC programme and final decisions on how it's run remain within
ISOC.

Thanks,

Steve

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Steve Conte
Internet Leadership Programme
The Internet Society
conte@isoc.org

On 10/10/13 3:00 AM, "S Moonesamy" <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> wrote:

>Hi Arturo,
>At 10:07 09-10-2013, Arturo Servin wrote:
>>     Shouldn't this draft have a title "Improving the ISOC
>> Fellowship programme to Attracting people from under-represented
>> regions into the IETF"?
>>
>>     I like the draft, but I think it is to tied to the ISOC
>> fellowship to give a clear direction to improve participation of
>> under-represented regions to the IETF in general.
>>
>>     My suggestion is to change the title or re-write it to be more
>>generic.
>
>I'll follow your suggestion and rewrite the title as:
>
>   "Improving the ISOC Fellowship programme to attract people from
>    under-represented regions into the IETF"
>
>I'll post the draft to ietf@ietf.org.  If there isn't consensus on
>that mailing list it is unlikely that the suggestions in the draft
>will be accepted within the IETF.  If anyone has concerns about what
>is in the draft I suggest raising them on the ietf@ietf.org mailing list.
>
>Regards,
>S. Moonesamy 
>
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[Diversity] Attracting people from under-represen… S Moonesamy
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Arturo Servin
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Eggert, Lars
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… S Moonesamy
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Arturo Servin
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Steve Conte
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Juliao Braga
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… S Moonesamy
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… S Moonesamy
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Arturo Servin
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Adiel Akplogan
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Abdussalam Baryun
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Arturo Servin
Re: [Diversity] Attracting people from under-repr… Abdussalam Baryun